tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3257108207435918424.post2791466069501709239..comments2023-06-22T08:40:53.577-06:00Comments on the peacewriter: A Woman's Place- Part 2Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3257108207435918424.post-14273253070016631572012-04-05T15:10:10.429-06:002012-04-05T15:10:10.429-06:00Kaylie, agreed! It makes me so sad the way women c...Kaylie, agreed! It makes me so sad the way women criticize each others life choices. And not just in politics, either.Angelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12399082789777816445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3257108207435918424.post-26866606022700389402012-04-05T14:55:08.310-06:002012-04-05T14:55:08.310-06:00The thing that amazes me most about Elizabeth Cady...The thing that amazes me most about Elizabeth Cady Stanton (OK, well besides the active feminism while taking care of seven kids thing) is her friendship with Susan B. Anthony. The two of them were like polar opposites. ECS had 7 kids, SBA was single. ECS was more comfotable writing, SBA preferred speaking. They argued often. They had many different opinions on individual issues. Yet they worked together beautifully because they had a common purpose. They are an example of how women can find common ground and achieve their goals. If women cut each other down because they disagree or have different lives, we won't achieve anything.KAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01492662417610004495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3257108207435918424.post-79339068052884691792012-04-05T08:31:32.689-06:002012-04-05T08:31:32.689-06:00I have decided that people who think women are tak...I have decided that people who think women are taking from the men are thinking like a group of 3-year olds who have been given ten cookies. They see another group of three year olds with five cookies. Then they see that other group is given another three cookies, and they start whining, saying, "why are they getting more than us?" because now that they are not ahead by so much, it seems to them that they have less. <br /><br />I have actually participated in discussions where the other party argued that since the majority of physical labor and the majority of dangerous labor is done by men, men deserved to be paid more than women. How this should affect the salary of a female web designer working with a bunch of male web designers who have never been to war or worked a physically strenuous job, I don't know. In this discussion, the other side also argued that women use men to get pregnant and then leech of of them while they raise the children, thus obtaining a cushy lifestyle and years of ill-gotten extra lifespan over their male partner. Oh, and women shouldn't get so much special attention regarding rape and abuse, because men get raped and abused too. The logic of this sort of argument is so clearly flawed that I can't believe anyone over the age of 9 could accept it.ifrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09534303328804397276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3257108207435918424.post-4164259090446203292012-04-05T01:32:29.095-06:002012-04-05T01:32:29.095-06:00And what about the girl who never longed to be a m...And what about the girl who never longed to be a mother...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3257108207435918424.post-16166363225649770602012-04-04T23:19:44.279-06:002012-04-04T23:19:44.279-06:00Excellent posting. I highly enjoyed it. It's i...Excellent posting. I highly enjoyed it. It's incredible to look at the "founding women" of feminism and realize how far we have come, only to look again and realize how far feminism still has to go. To think so many think we no longer need feminism.Alexandriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709633600980259874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3257108207435918424.post-10583332926422783172012-04-04T20:05:23.376-06:002012-04-04T20:05:23.376-06:00I think what is overlooked when people talk about ...I think what is overlooked when people talk about 'stay-at-home' mothers is that in the best of worlds, if any of us had a choice, male or female, we would have a 'wife.'(of any gender). To have someone create, maintain and provide a home and a life for the family as a whole is fantastic. It is also fantasy. The reality is that most women in the world who do not go pursue a career path not only do all of this work in the home but toil in fields or factories for 12-15 hours a day as well. <br />Spend time in the Third World, and actually, also in some patriarchal First World countries like Greece, and men have time to drink coffee, chat, play chess or draughts while women wash, clean, cook, rear,organise and till farms and fields....patriarchy is alive and well in the modern age and religous patriarchy is no more than a backward hangover from more primitive times which has managed to hold on because, well, it provides the optimum lifestyle for men, who run most religions and much of our society. Who wouldn't want a wife? <br />It is disingenous at best and dishonest at worst to 'talk' about women needing fulfillment in the home when what women want is what men want - to pursue work which satisfies and fulfills them, wherever it may be, and if it is outside the home, then to have a 'wife' to do what needs to be done. In this day and age there are more men who are prepared to do this but the stark reality is that even women who work fulltime and pursue careers will still, in most developed nations, do more of the work which needs to be done at home.<br />As someone who has spent time working while my husband stayed home and cared for hearth, home and kids, I know that I never actually had the choice that he did as to whether or not I really wanted to be a stay at home mother or pursue a career path. We realised that one career path would work better and so I opted for part-time work because I felt the mix would work better for me than for him - but that doesn't make it a choice.<br />The irony is that most women in the world have less choice than men and religions seek to limit that choice even more. And they do it in the name of whatever general 'good' they can invent simply because it makes their lives more comfortable. <br />There is a saying that women hold up half the sky but the reality is that women,because of their unpaid labour, often slavery, hold up something like 90% of the world because they are also holding up men who don't want to grow up and take full and equal responsibility for everything in their lives - and that includes home.<br />It isn't feminism which wages war on the family it is patriarchy which not only limits women, it weakens men, and encourages to believe that when they marry they will still have 'mum' to look after them. <br />It's time for men to grow up - women have been carrying them for too long.Roslyn Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15700960108357035957noreply@blogger.com